Blog Archive: 2010

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Absolutely any body can be involved in meth

Often the image of people involved in meth is those of scruffy appearance, young, thin and of another nationality other tan our own. This stereo type image is a big mistake. Sure you get these kinds of people involved; sometimes addicts do get this wasted look, meth can sure do that to you, however this is not always the case. For instance the more casually user can still appear fine, they could be for all intense and purposes the popular news reader on TV or the bright and attractive girl that reads the weather. There is simply no stereo type when it comes to meth use, or for those evolved in its manufacture and distribution. Age, nationality, profession, absolutely any body may, can and does get involved. It is not at all unknown for professional business people in their sixties to be well entrenched in the supply and distribution of meth. Just another example is the 65 year old underworld figure nicknamed “Pete the terrorist” found hiding out in his mums retirement village in up market Glendowie Auckland . read more

NZ Herald Meth Dealer on the run >>

Edited Geoff Dye

August 2010

Meth is the most potent form of amphetamine available.

It is reported that New Zealand , Australia and the USA are the biggest markets for meth in the world.
Where as in USA, although they have thousands of small meth labs all around the country still the majority of the drug is manufactured in Mexico and then smuggled across the boarder.
In NZ, most meth is manufactured in small home kitchen meth labs. By fare the majority of these labs will be in rental properties.
The majority of the precursor (base substances that meth is made from ) is smuggled into NZ via China in the form of Contact NT. Contac NT is readily available as an over the counter medication in China, however it is a banned drug in NZ .
The NZ Customs Dept maintains that the amount of Contact NT coming into NZ illegally, has increased over 1200% time within the past 5 years. All of the Contact NT smuggled into NZ is destined to be made into methamphetamine.

Meth Crimes overload courtThe methamphetamine scene in New Zealand is growing in size and sophistication as the years pass. This is to be expected as it is said the meth trade follows the same pattern where ever it goes world wide.First they establish the market. Then they secure the territory, after that comes the influencing and corrupting of officials, the inevitable violence follows as groups strive to retain control or gain control of a market share, as others are arrested or disposed of and on it goes spiraling ever down wards. We reported some time back how in I parts of Mexico gangs had infiltrated drug rehabilitation centres as places for recruiting drug dealers. They had even gone so fare as to obtain state moneys to set up rehabs specifically to achieve this.

I took a quick look back over the last two years and noticed that the New Zealand Herald was reporting back in May 2008 that the high court was jammed with Meth cases to such an extent that other cases had to be discharged without trial because they had been waiting so long.

Interestingly enough back in 2006 the statistics showed that only 5% of people arrested on meth charges were of Asian descent, however over the last 18 months this has changed greatly. Is it that more Asians are now involved or is it simply a case of the police being better resourced and being able to dig deeper now. Reports that came out in the NZ Herald this week appear to indicate the latter.

With the Meth trade now operating as a billion dollar business in NZ it is very likely that all we will ever be able to do now is contain the problem by throwing massive resources at the it. MethMinder of course is one way in which individuals can help protect themselves and their investment from this ever increasing danger. To read more on the court situation and meth in NZ go to. ( sorry link broken )

 by Geoffrey Dye

August 2010

Methamphetamine, another form of Terrorism

Here is a story from Sir Lanka. As if they don’t have enough problems without being invaded by Meth. The value of the drug found has been reported to be worth millions of Dollars, and the dealers were from Iran. Meth is simply another form of terrorisms more subtle but highly effective in destroying communities never the less. Read more at >> ( sorry link broken )

Remember cooking meth can leave such a toxic waste as to destroy property and the lives of the occupants that live in these homes long after the cooking has past.

by Geoffrey Dye


Rental properties used in the manufacture of methamphetamine (“˜P’)

What are a landlord’s obligations?

The Tenancy Tribunal issued its first decision about a rented property contaminated by being used as a P lab on 11 June 2004. The Tribunal ruled that renting out contaminated premises is a breach of a landlord’s obligation to provide premises in a reasonable state of cleanliness. This obligation is set out in Section 45(1)(a) of the Residential Tenancies Act 1986 (RTA).

To ensure they meet those obligations the Tribunal stated that landlords should:

Arrange for the property to be cleansed and decontaminated by a professional cleaning company experienced in the removal and neutralisation of hazardous substances and; Have the property tested by appropriately qualified and analytical chemists to establish that the level of contaminants is within an acceptable level.

If landlords rent out a property that is contaminated, they are breaching their obligations under the RTA, as well as other legislation such as the Building Act and the Health Act. The Police and some local authorities have procedures to notify local councils when they identify contaminated properties.

Things for landlords and tenants to check before renting a property

  • Landlords should check for any signs the property been used as a P lab.
  • The Auckland Regional Public Health Service has identified some warning signs that a lab is operating*. These include:
  • Unusual chemical smells that are not normally present in the area
  • Numerous chemical containers (labelled solvent, acid, flammable) stored or stock piled
  • Stained glass equipment and cookware
  • Plastic or glass containers fitted with glass or rubber tubing
  • Numerous cold tablet packages lying around or in the rubbish
  • Portable gas tanks or other cylinders not normally seen or used in the area
  • Chemical stains around household kitchen sink, laundry, toilet or stormwater drains
  • Yellow/brown staining of interior floor wall ceiling and appliance surfaces
  • Any unusual activity particularly at night

If there are indications the property has been used as a lab, the landlord should have the premises decontaminated using reputable commercial cleaners for the specific purpose of ridding the property of any contamination arising from the manufacture of P.

Tenants should ask landlords whether the property has been used as a P lab.

Prospective tenants should satisfy themselves the property has not been used as a P lab, or that it has been decontaminated.

Note that Auckland Regional Public Health Service also advises that that no decontamination procedure can guarantee absolute safety.

What if a tenant thinks the rental property has been used as a P lab?

A tenant should obtain as much information as possible to show whether the property has been used this way. This would include talking to the landlord.

If a tenant then wishes to end the tenancy because they believe the premises are contaminated, they can apply to the Tribunal to do so under Section 56 of the RTA. If they want the premises decontaminated, the landlord should be asked to do this. (For more advice on requesting that work be done by a landlord please call Tenancy Services.)

Tenants should also be aware that local authorities have authority under Section 41 of the Health Act 1956 to order the owner of a property to cleanse it, if cleansing is necessary to prevent danger to health or for rendering the property fit for occupation.

What do I do if I suspect or find a P lab?

If you suspect a dwelling or property is being used as a P lab contact the Police.

For further information visit the National drug policy website:


* Disclaimer: This information is based on a common sense precautionary approach to the safe management of unknown hazardous substances and contaminated environments. Auckland Regional Public Health Service and the author will not be held liable for any actual or potential economic or adverse effect(s) arising from use of this information.

By Geoff  Dye

August 2010

Warning: Do not rent or buy and ex P lab

Here at MethMinder we get calls from tenants and occupants of past P-lab Homes several times a month. These folk are usually hopping we can help them understand what is going on. Often these people are tenants on fixed rental agreements and they find that their landlord or property managers is playing hard ball and will not entertain the notion that the property may be contaminated from methamphetamine manufacture. In such circumstances we always point them to the Dept Building and Housing and the Tenancy Act. The Act quite clearly states that in such circumstances the tenant has the right to request the property be tested for contamination and if contaminated insist that the property is decontaminated at the land lords expense. In every case that I have known of when the landlord or property managers have been confronted with this ruling they have accepted that the agreement be terminated. Presumably they then re rent the property without further remediation and hope that the next tenants do not report a problem.

By Geoffrey Dye

New York Times July 09

Occupants beware. Occupants get sick

Illnesses Afflict Homes With A P lab Past



The spacious home where the newly wed Rhonda and Jason Holt began their family in 2005 was plagued by mysterious illnesses. The Holts’ three babies were ghostlike and listless, with breathing problems that called for respirators, repeated trips to the emergency room and, for the middle child, Anna, the heaviest dose of steroids a toddler can take.

Ms. Holt, a nurse, developed migraines. She and her husband, a factory worker, had kidney ailments.

It was not until February, more than five years after they moved in, that the couple discovered the root of their troubles: their house, across the road from a cornfield in this town some 70 miles south of Nashville, was contaminated with high levels of methamphetamine left by the previous occupant, who had been dragged from the attic by the police.

The Holts’ next realization was almost as devastating: it was up to them to spend the $30,000 or more that cleanup would require.

With meth lab seizures on the rise nationally for the first time since 2003, similar cases are playing out in several states, drawing attention to the problem of meth contamination, which can permeate drywall, carpets, insulation and air ducts, causing respiratory ailments and other health problems.

Federal data on meth lab seizures suggest that there are tens of thousands of contaminated residences in the United States. The victims include low-income elderly people whose homes are surreptitiously used by relatives or in-laws to make meth, and landlords whose tenants leave them with a toxic mess.

Some states have tried to fix the problem by requiring cleanup and, at the time of sale, disclosure of the house’s history. But the high cost of cleaning “” $5,000 to $100,000, depending on the size of the home, the stringency of the requirements and the degree of contamination “” has left hundreds of properties vacant and quarantined, particularly in Western and Southern states afflicted with meth use.

“The meth lab home problem is only going to grow,” said Dawn Turner, who started a Web site,

after her son lost thousands of dollars when he bought a foreclosed home in Sweetwater, Tenn., that turned out to be contaminated. Because less is known about the history of foreclosed houses, Ms. Turner said, “as foreclosures rise, so will the number of new meth lab home owners.”

Meth contamination can bring financial ruin to families like that of Francisca Rodriguez. The family dog began having seizures nine days after the Rodriguezes moved into their home in Grapevine, Tex., near Dallas, and their 6-year-old son developed a breathing problem similar to asthma, said Ms. Rodriguez, 35, a stay-at-home mother of three.

After learning from neighbors that the three-bedroom ranch-style home had been a known “drug house,” the family had it tested. The air ducts had meth levels more than 100 times higher than the most commonly cited limit beyond which cleanup is typically required.

The former owner had marked “no” on a disclosure form asking whether the house had ever been a meth lab, Ms. Rodriguez said. But because he is now in prison for meth possession, among other things, the Rodriguezes decided there was nothing to gain by suing him. They moved out, throwing away most of their possessions because they could not be cleaned, and are letting the house go into foreclosure.

“It makes you crazy,” Ms. Rodriguez said. “Our credit is ruined, we won’t be able to buy another house, somebody exposed my kids to meth, and my dog died.”

Federal statistics show that the number of clandestine meth labs discovered in the United States rose by 14 percent last year, to 6,783, and has continued to increase, in part because of a crackdown on meth manufacturers in Mexico and in part because of the spread of a new, easier meth-making method known as “shake and bake.”

There are no national standards governing meth contamination. Congress ordered the Environmental Protection Agency to publish cleanup guidelines by the end of 2008, but the agency is still reviewing a draft version. Without standards, professional cleaners say, it is easy to bungle a job that often requires gutting and repeated washing.

About 20 states have passed laws requiring meth contamination cleanup, and they use widely varied standards. Virtually all the laws hold the property owner financially responsible; Colorado appears to be the only state that allots federal grant money to help innocent property owners faced with unexpected cleanup jobs.

In other states, like Georgia, landlords and other real estate owners have fought a proposed cleanup law.

After the Holts bought their house here, Tennessee passed such a law. But since 2005, only 81 of 303 homes placed under a resulting quarantine have been cleaned, according to the state, which has one of the few registries tracking meth lab addresses. The law applies only if the police find a working meth lab at the house, and Jerry Hood, a lawyer and cleanup contractor hired by the Holts for the decontamination work, said many houses in the county had escaped the legislation.

The health effects of meth contamination are frequently difficult to prove, and research is scant. But John W. Martyny, a meth expert at the National Jewish Medical and Research Center in Denver, said living in a former meth lab made children more likely to develop learning disabilities and caused long-term respiratory and skin problems.

Even brief exposure can have severe effects, Dr. Martyny said. A 2007 study by the Denver center found that more than 70 percent of law enforcement officials who had inspected meth labs subsequently reported health problems.

To Ms. Holt’s horror, inspectors found high concentrations of meth on her kitchen countertops, where she sterilized bottles, prepared baby food and doled out snacks.

“We had no idea that we were starting a family in a meth house,” she said. “We bought a house that eventually was going to sentence our family to death.”

When the family left the house, moving in with Mr. Holt’s parents, their health problems largely subsided. The children no longer needed medication to breathe. The migraines and the kidney ailments vanished.

But the heartaches continued. Ms. Holt has been working two jobs to earn money to pay for her house’s remediation, which has proceeded in fits and starts with donations from church fund-raisers and local businesses. And Anna, 2, had a relapse and had to return briefly to the hospital.

“We don’t know what it’s going to be in the future,” Ms. Holt said, standing in the barren, unfinished structure that was once her dream home and reflecting on her children. “This meth contamination is all their immune systems have ever known.”

Geoffrey Dye

July 2010

Meth Lab Keep Out

“P lab” contamination can suck the life out of you

A story read on the Methlab homes blog says it all. I’m continually dumb founded by the lack of legislative response to the issue of “P lab” “Meth lab” “clan labs” contaminated homes that are on the market within our communities. America, Australia and New Zealand are world leaders in the manufacture of methamphetamine. The contamination effect on property is a massive issue in all these countries. The understanding that “P labs” as they are known in New Zealand are dangerous has been known for over a decade and yet there is still not a national standard for remediation of past “P labs” in existence. Thank fully some councils take the issue of contamination very seriously and do what they can to ensure that identified “P labs” are cleansed before they are reoccupied. However without a standard to work too, who can say if a past “P lab” property is safe to occupy or not.

The article at Methlab Homes is a graphic reminder that without specific testing standards to work too anything can happen. The fact that there is no standard for remediating a former P lab available is bad enough. However many councils throughout NZ, have at least some form of action plan in place, by which they endeavour to enforce some form of remediation. It must be noted though that this is only applicable if they have been informed by the police and does not cover the multitude that go undetected. Even then as stated, remediated to what standard is the question we all need to ask.

Because rental properties figure so prominently as the place of choice in which to conduct a “meth cook” any property that has been used as a renter showed be evaluated carefully before purchasing or renting. The only real way to be sure that a property is contamination free is to have it tested. The tests conducted to identify Meth residue are different from testing for remediation, or rather they should be. When a meth cook is in operation there are many more dangerous substances given off in addition to meth residue. These compounds and substances can leach from a building for as long as they are active and that’s any bodies guess. Simply opening windows to air the place out is what you do for burnt toast not to remediate a P lab, however that’s exactly what some people do and even others advocate

What’s the answer; well never have a P lab set up in one of your properties. How can you do that you ask, well the only totally proactive solution on the market is MethMinder and it operates by monitoring the internal environment of a dwelling for very specific gases given off during a meth cook. MethMindewr is leading edge in its ability to monitor a property and report suspicious activity to the monitoring company. Property managers and land Lords inform potential tenants that the property is monitored for such activity and it is likely that those individuals that had in mind to manufacture meth with default at that time. To do otherwise would be very fool hardy and to invite unwanted attention.

Geoffrey Dye  ( Geoff Dye)

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